Do You Believe In A Deity? The Age-Old Question
#1
Posted October 10, 2009 - 05:47 PM
Please give an explanation as to why or why not; all statements such as "Of course there's a God!" will be met with a sarcastic response along with a mocking laugh -- you have been warned!
My opinion is there is no God. The chances of such a thing are less than one in a billion or so; I am, as such, an Atheist.
Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. I will admit that I think the concept of God is stupid and I cannot fathom why most would believe in such a thing - aside from, perhaps, fear - but that is their choice; please respect said choices when replying.
Also, I apologize if there is already a thread similar to this; I searched but found nothing.
Let there be debating!

#2
Posted October 10, 2009 - 05:55 PM
I am very skeptical of the Bible itself, that it has probably been translated wrongly and to take its writing literally is probably the unintended way God would want us to worship Him. I would like to see a modern translation of the Codex Sinaiticus, the oldest surviving Bible man possesses.
I believe in God not only because I believe He exists in some form or another, but also because it's good for one's conscience to believe in something higher than themselves. If not for these reasons, I would be an atheist because the logical side of me says that God does not exist. Then again, there are things that are and things that happen that we can't explain with science or logic. Plus, nothing can ever be definitively proven as true by us lowly humans.
#11
Posted November 16, 2009 - 07:38 AM
Mega, on 10 October 2009 - 10:55 AM, said:
I am very skeptical of the Bible itself, that it has probably been translated wrongly and to take its writing literally is probably the unintended way God would want us to worship Him. I would like to see a modern translation of the Codex Sinaiticus, the oldest surviving Bible man possesses.
I believe in God not only because I believe He exists in some form or another, but also because it's good for one's conscience to believe in something higher than themselves. If not for these reasons, I would be an atheist because the logical side of me says that God does not exist. Then again, there are things that are and things that happen that we can't explain with science or logic. Plus, nothing can ever be definitively proven as true by us lowly humans.
I think that science has the potential to explain everything in the physical world. Even if it can't explain something fully today, that shouldn't be a good reason to default to a supernatural explanation (not that this is what you are doing). Do you agree with this or are you saying there are things that science will never be able to explain?
I think that of the 10 commandments, only 4 or 5 are actually rational and useful. The other half mainly just deals with God's ego, which is apparently more important to spell out than things like rape and molestation. We all would have (and did) land on the useful 4-5 with or without religion.
My position on God's existence is that it would require a great deal of evidence to believe in such an extraordinary claim and so far there isn't any evidence to warrant a belief.
#12
Posted November 18, 2009 - 09:51 AM
I have no clue and doubt I ever will.
#14
Posted November 26, 2009 - 08:19 AM
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#15
Posted January 05, 2010 - 05:17 AM
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So, to write it out, according to you the chance of there being a deity is less than .00000001%, give or take a few places for the "or so".
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(there are 39,998 0's)
I will take my chances with the 1 in a billion, it seems to be slightly more likely in this case. For the record however, I am not sure where you got the number 1 in a billion, I had not heard that number before. People usually just say no or yes.
This post has been edited by God-Follower: January 05, 2010 - 05:21 AM

#17
Posted January 05, 2010 - 03:56 PM
Mega, on 10 October 2009 - 11:55 AM, said:
I agree with you, but from my experiences with a Greek Bible and Greek-English dictionary, they're generally pretty close. Of course, I can't say I've translated the entire bible.
An interesting note is that in my bible study at college, we go around the room reading two verses out of a chapter, and since we have like 6 different translations, it's really hard to read along. Haha.
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#20
Posted February 01, 2010 - 05:21 PM
God-Follower, on 04 January 2010 - 09:17 PM, said:
So, to write it out, according to you the chance of there being a deity is less than .00000001%, give or take a few places for the "or so".
Odds of one cell forming due to random atomic movements, according to Sir Fred Hoyle: (massive number of 0's)
there are 39,998 0's)
I will take my chances with the 1 in a billion, it seems to be slightly more likely in this case. For the record however, I am not sure where you got the number 1 in a billion, I had not heard that number before. People usually just say no or yes.
Enzymes don't form by random chance.. They are produced using DNA as a template that codes for specific amino acids, which link up to form an enzyme. Not all life has enzymes though.. Many prokaryotic cells don't have any enzymes.
#21
Posted February 02, 2010 - 10:58 AM
Jaesin, on 01 February 2010 - 07:21 AM, said:
Whaaaa?, Lol Genius, didnt understand it, But Still awesome.
#22
Posted February 02, 2010 - 05:10 PM
There is so much evidence against god existing than any logical / rational person could be converted.
And even so, if all of this made up bullshit actually turned out to be true, there are plenty of philosophical thought experiments to not believe in god, or to not obey god for any reason. Based on all the incoherent information and explanations of god.
#23
Posted February 04, 2010 - 09:48 AM
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First, you can't assign a probability to the non existence of God. Even if we wanted to, which "God" are we talking about? Your God? Or the thousands of other Gods that people believe in?
This is the reason you can't just say "no or yes". But if we did present all the evidence and assigned a probability to God's existence, it would be much worse than a mere 1 in a billion. Especially if you are referring to the God of the Bible or any other God from any major religion. Gods of major religions are ridiculously absurd. I'm not just bashing belief either. I completely respect Deism.
Second, "take your chances"? So do you only believe in your God because you are afraid of consequences if you don't believe? Punishment? Sounds like Pascal's Wager.
As for Hoyle's calculation... see Hoyle's Fallacy
#25
Posted March 16, 2010 - 08:01 AM
A schoolmate of mine was a Satanist. By their religion, you are your own god. Since my schoolmate existed, their god existed. This is a proven fact. There are medical records of this god.
That's why it's stupid to say that no god exists.
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